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Joan Howe's avatar

I wonder if this can be extrapolated to the collapse of civilizations? I mean in the sense of urban societies with some continuity of governmental structure. The cultures of, for instance, Egypt and China that we speak of as millenia-old have usually been through multiple cycles of growth and collapse. When the leader gets to a certain level of power, nobody dares to bring him bad news, so his idea of the state of his kingdom gets further and further from reality because what his underlings tell him is derived from their understanding of his likes and dislikes and is designed to keep him in a good mood. The more urban the society gets, the more people depend on "keeping the customer satisfied" and the fewer individual members are in touch with reality. Eventually a black swan comes in for a landing and nobody does anything about it because the people who could do something about it are too insulated by second-order sterility to find out about it.

Júlio Buliamti's avatar

Well articulated. This has seemed obvious to me for decades. The constant feedback dots and loops in complex, evolving biological systems are far from sterile. Biology sterile? LOL. Language is a double-edged technology. Technology? Anyway, the NRx, dark tetrad, TESCREAL project does not care about life. Life? LOL. Do some of us think we know what that means? I have a funny intuition that our civilization will be unplugged sooner rather than later. "Someday, this war is gonna end." Kilgore

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